In defense of meat

Wed, 06/17/2009 - 1:19pm

Eating animals is not destroying the planet. And it can even be good for you.

By Kevin Slaten

Writing on FP's The Argument blog, Jim Motavalli recently predicted that the "vegetarian world" will be coming your way soon. Unhealthy, polluting, and simply impractical, meat won't be around much longer, he argues -- at least not in a morally acceptable way.

Let me be blunt: This is not our future. Red meat might well deserve probation, but fish and chicken are innocent of all charges. And even beef, lamb, and pork have their redeeming qualities -- not least that technology might soon make them greenhouse gas free. So please, don't toss out your butcher's business card yet.

Motavalli offers two reasons why we ought to go veggie. First, he cites a study linking red meat consumption to cancer and heart disease. But alas, he seems to forget that there are tremendous differences between types of meat. Red meat is the only kind addressed in this study. And the Harvard School of Public Health claims that other meat sources (the ones that are low in saturated fat such as chicken or fish) pose little risk to human health. What's more, they might actually be good for you. Many fish are rich in the fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid, which humans need but bodies can't make themselves. Those omega-3s have become the latest "superfood," and -- sorry, vegetarians -- they cannot be found anywhere else in nature. A person who eats fish is less likely to have heart disease than someone who doesn't -- say, a vegetarian.

Next, Motavalli warns us that meat contributes more to greenhouse gases (GHG) than the entire transportation sector. But here again, he fails to differentiate between different types of livestock. True, the industry overall may emit 18 percent of all GHG, but the beef sector emits 13 times as much as the poultry sector, meaning that chicken production contributes no more than 1 percent to global GHG. Compare that with a vegetarian favorite -- rice -- which emits 1.5 percent of climate-heating gases.

Despite all of this variation, Motavalli declares, "The obvious solution to both health and environmental disasters is to stop eating meat altogether." Actually, that choice will be a moot point in just 15 years, he argues: "By 2025, we simply won't have the resources" to keep eating meat. With growing demand for resource-intensive animal products, vegetarianism seems inevitable.

Again, I beg to differ. This prediction rests on the bizarre assumption that technology will stagnate. The reality is quite the opposite. Scientists are refining methods for growing meat tissue in the lab without the costs of land, water, and feed, whose use inflicts so much environmental collateral damage. They call it in vitro meat, and even the veggie-lovers love it. Last year, the animal rights group PETA even offered a $1 million prize to the "first person to come up with a method to produce commercially viable quantities of in vitro meat at competitive prices by 2012."

So, upon closer inspection, the vegetarian revolution appears to be neither essential nor likely.

None of this means that we should ignore the pressing threat of climate change. But the plan of action need not be as bombastic as cutting out an entire section of the food pyramid. At the policy level, a carbon cap could tax the worst polluters in the livestock industry. Meanwhile, more money should be invested in technologies like in vitro meat and methane capture and storage. As consumers, we should think about diversifying our sources of dietary protein, eating less beef and pork and more dairy, poultry, fish, and soy.

Climate control and public health are critical for our collective future, but both are damaged by inaccuracies and half-truths. Vegetarianism is not the impending reality. Technology and good old common sense will allow us to have our meat ... and eat it too.

Kevin Slaten is a junior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He blogs at kevinslaten.blogspot.com.

Photo: ROMEO GACAD/AFP/Getty Images



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Why I Eat Meat (and Why I Think You Should too...)

This is a great article! And I couldn't agree more. I wrote an article a few months ago titled Why I Eat Meat (and Why I Think You Should too). I started writing about food specifically because I was frustrated by the over saturation of vegetarian opinions in San Francisco, where I live. Thanks for writing this!

I think the point of the

I think the point of the article was different.

Many vegetarians have a moral argument that they feel at least as stronly as prolifers do about abortion. They think it's nurder and worse. What has kept it from being as big an issue is only that there are not as many of them.

As we get poorer we will be able to afford less meat. As oil prices go up, meat prices will go up faster. And if we do anything effective to reduce carbon burning and greenhouse gas emissions, that will reduce meat supplies more.

There are a number of people who feel like eating meat is immoral, but who would be inconvenienced if they tried to avoid it. So they don't think about it. If a mostly-meatless lifestyle was forced onto them, they would have no reason to keep tolerating other people eating meat. They could indulge their morals then. So the vegetarian movement would grow fast.

The (likely false) argument that we must all totally give up meat to save the world would be reinforced by the (entirely judgemental) argument that eating meat is evil and immoral and the evil people must be stopped.

This is a predictable sequence of events, although other things might interfere with it.

And talking about technological fixes won't fix it. If someone had proposed technical changes in 1856 which could have eliminated the worst effects of field slavery and proposed that this would let us happily keep 15% of the slaves, would abolitionists have been satisfied?

Peace begins on your plate

I find it ironic that Kevin Slaten is a junior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and writes about consuming sentient beings. Raising animals as economic units encourages violence to the treatment of these animals and brings this violence into our societies then into our hearts and minds. In addition, these units that carnists believe they must eat (and are entitled to eat) are necessary for survival. This is not so. And what is worse than taking a life unnecessarily, is that life was physically and mentally abused leading to unimaginable stress. As pigs are forced down a chute to slaughter, they are so stressed they typically go into cardiac arrest and their bodies get “stuck” in the processing. Is this really the type energy you want to take into your body? Finally, the mass production of animals for food polarizes the haves and the have nots. There are people on this planet with very little food and clean water because of the imbalance of resources put to farmed animals. History has taught is that a formula of squandering resources to provide to a few while others go with out does not ever result in peace. Treating animals as economic units for food is not peaceful or healthy for the animals, our selves, or our planet.

Eating animals is cruel and unnecessary: go vegan now

1. In America, over 9 billion animals are killed each year in what could be fairly characterized as an annual holocaust. (Over 50 billion animals are killed globally.) It has been called "An Eternal Treblinka." http://www.eternaltreblinka.com

2. The biggest air pollutant in America (dust), the largest quantity of water pollution in America (chemicals/fertilizers from farming food used to feed animals and animal waste), the water shortage in our west, deforestation and topsoil erosion are all caused as a direct result of humans eating animals.

3. A vegan (type of vegetarian who eats no eggs or dairy as well as no meat) can be sustained on 1/40th the amount of land as an omnivore.

4. Most of the rainforest cutting/loss in equatorial South America as well as in other areas of Latin America is directly due to clear-cutting to raise cattle.

5. One of the biggest greenhouse gas contributors is methane from cows.

6. It could be argued that violence would decline if we ate foods that were based on compassion instead of continuing to feed the huge multinational agribusinesses.

7. Health benefits of a vegan diet would be enormous. Heart disease is the # 1 killer in America and a low fat, no oil vegan diet cures heart disease according to Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn (www.heartattackproof.com). Also, vegans ingest no cholesterol as cholesterol is only found in animal products and our body makes all the cholesterol we need. Strokes, Salmonellosis, osteoporosis, kidney stones, many cancers, diabetes, hypoglycemia, kidney disease, peptic ulcers, hernias, obesity, gallstones, asthma and many other diseases are also linked to eating animals.

The article in your publication was horribly researched by Slaten.

omega-3s

Many fish are rich in the fatty acid docosahexaenoic acid, which humans need but bodies can't make themselves. Those omega-3s have become the latest "superfood," and -- sorry, vegetarians -- they cannot be found anywhere else in nature.

This is not entirely true - docosahexaenoic acid or DHA is found in Algae oil, which is developed by Martek. A Google search for vegan DHA brings up several companies that sell these Algae DHA supplements. So while the the author is correct in stating that vegan diets are generally deficient in DHA, a vegan diet such as the one recommended by Michael Greger, fortified with Algae DHA (as well as vitamin D and B12) may be healthier than a diet that includes fish, since seafood is often contaminated with mercury.

Meat is flat out Violence

It is amazing how the author skips the holocaust part of the story.

Meat alternatives are widely common these days. For new comers, check this website to begin with: http://www.MeatAlternatives.org

As for In Vitro Meat, go to:
http://www.New-Harvest.org
http://www.FutureFood.org

Kevin Slaten's pro-meat rant

I don't know how old Mr. Slaten is, but I've been here for over 50 years and watched the awakening of conscience over cruelty to animals, the spread of factory farm viruses into the human population (the list is getting mighty long), and now, this exponential boom of vegetarian/vegan consciousness because of climate change, soil erosion, deforestation, etc. Who wants to have kids who have only a filthy, barren, windswept plain to live on and where the acdt of breathing is a chore? That's not hysteria, it's science fact and according to every credible expert on climate and epidemiology which does not include Hannity and Limbaugh, raising animals for food, treating them as if they were widgets to be 'produced' in factory-like conditions is the #1 cause of our problem. Subsidizing human demise while violating human values is a political issue that no one can support if they read even a little bit. Try EarthSave.org perhaps? Eating the bean rather than the beef burrito is a start but unless the government stops paying farmers to keep on churning out meat and dairy products out of our tax funds, we are in deep trouble, and boy, are our children's children.

Swine Flu. Salmonella. Mad

Swine Flu.
Salmonella.
Mad Cow Disease.

Does any of this sound familiar to anyone? Do you know from where these recent outbreaks originated?

That's right: factory farms dedicated to the use of animals as food. Consider it the revenge of the slaughtered, if you will, since most cross-contamination occurs in the slaughterhouse.

We as human beings have introduced this problem to the world with our factory farming methods, which receive little oversight and LOTS of government funding. For as much as people complain about the billions given away to failing U.S. companies (I'm in that group of whiners, BTW), very few people know or think about the massive tax dollars that are provided to the meat production industry every year. It is conjectured that a pound of ground beef would cost $40 at the supermarket without these subsidies. Of course it DOES cost $40, but you don't pay it all at once; instead you pay piecemeal with your taxes -- even if you are someone that does not eat meat (like me).

Also consider how energy-inefficient meat production is. You have to grow feed which is then processed and fed to growing animals who are then processed and fed to people. It takes 10 times the energy to produce a pound of meat (take your pick as to the type, as it doesn't matter) as to produce a pound of tofu or tempeh or seitan.

Overall I cannot believe how poorly-researched this article is, going so far as to state that Omega-3 cannot be produced in any way other than from fish when it is well-known that there are several forms of algae from which it can be harvested. This is similar to the B-12 argument, which can also be derived very efficiently from yeast. Putting a lie into print does not make it true.

Please check your facts, Mr. Slaten. If you eat meat "because you like bacon" or "couldn't live without fried chicken" then just come out and say it. Do not, however, present a poorly-researched article strewn with falsehoods that cast my lifestyle in a negative light to assuage your guilty conscience about supporting a meat industry that, deep down, you know produces products that are abusive, unsustainable, and unhealthy.

Dishonest Argument

Mr. Slaten,

You're being deeply dishonest when you try to compare greenhouse gas emissions from raising poultry with GHG emissions from rice. You need to compare GHG per calorie, or per gram of protein. Given rice's primacy as food for the world, the volume of rice is so many times higher than the volume of poultry that they're not directly comparable. You're using statistics dishonestly.

While you can certainly claim that some kinds of meat require less GHG emissions than beef or pork, you're being dishonest if you suggest that these varieties of meat cause less GHG emissions than a vegetarian diet.

You also didn't address the environmental devastation connected with the 'greener' and 'healthier' meats. Overfishing is a serious concern, and poultry production produces significant amounts of pathogenic waste. If your only point is that not all meat is equally bad, I'd readily agree. But, if you're trying to say that eating meat is even remotely as good as vegetarianism (or especially veganism) in terms of the environment, you're seriously over-stating the point.

Rice and GHG

Sorry, rice production is done under anaerobic soil conditions. Under these condition the decomposition of organic material (cellulose from roots, leaves, etc.) from the previous crop, whose weight is greater than the rice yield, will produce a mixture of methane and CO2. Methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than CO2. So, more than half the wt. of that rice you were eating when into the air as methane, which has a much larger GHG impact that the same amount of protein from chicken grown on wheat and corn.

Ruminants like cows utilize the same bacteria in their guts and also produce methane, but non-ruminants like chickens, pigs produce very little methane. The top foot of rice land soil is a lot more volume in the world that cow stomachs.

Rice

If you're arguing that artificially irrigated rice is responsible for unnecessary GHG emissions, you have a point. However, rice can certainly be grown on land which would already be naturally covered with water for the growing season (e.g. Bangladesh and much of SE Asia). As such, I think that this remains a false comparison.

"You need to compare GHG per

"You need to compare GHG per calorie, or per gram of protein. Given rice's primacy as food for the world, the volume of rice is so many times higher than the volume of poultry that they're not directly comparable."

Despite your (unappreciated) accusation that I being dishonest, I look at it from a different perspective: chicken (and meat, fish, etc.) is qualitatively different (and I would suggest better) than rice. So if both rice and chicken are given a "nutritional weight", then their value is changed, despite the amount of calories each contributes. Furthermore, this was given as a reference point for comparison, not as the primary argument.

"If your only point is that not all meat is equally bad, I'd readily agree."

*One* of my points was that all meat is not equally as bad.

"But, if you're trying to say that eating meat is even remotely as good as vegetarianism (or especially veganism) in terms of the environment, you're seriously over-stating the point."

If only the environment were all that mattered. This is why human health is used as a metric as well.

More about GHG, and a shift to human health

I appreciate your response. I maintain that you are making a dishonest comparison. I think you underestimated how much rice the world eats: 'It provides the main source of calories for over half the world's human population; global production is over 500 million tons per year and constitutes almost 30% of the world's grain supply'. Given your statistics, the fact that rice provides this much food for such a relatively small share of GHG emissions (compared to poultry) makes rice look like a MUCH better GHG bargain. It is a conceit on your part to suggest that since rice and poultry are, in your words 'qualitatively different', you can't/won't compare them directly. If you can't compare them nutritionally without resorting to vague subjective measures, why use the GHG statistic at all [which certainly implies that they are meaningfully comparable]? You should be more careful with your comparisons, or risk being considered dishonest.

As for the human health question, let's use 'The Grand Prix of epidemiology... the most comprehensive large study ever undertaken of the relationship between diet and the risk of developing disease' i.e. the China-Cornell-Oxford project. The salient point: 'The China Health Project's Primary finding is that the Chinese who eat the least fat and animal products have substantially lower rates of cancer, heart attack, and several other chronic degenerative diseases.'

I don't think you can find a fault with the world's most comprehensive epidemiological study dealing with diet and health. The verdict is that frequency of meat [and fat] consumption is strongly correlated with negative health consequences.

I think we can agree that the majority of scientific research suggests that a very modest amount of meat can be included in a healthy diet. At the same time, it is important to note that there is a very strong correlation between ill health and volume of meat consumed.

Common sense conclusions: Meat, if consumed, should be used as a condiment and not as the center of a meal. Meat is not as good for the environment as a vegetarian/vegan diet. Meat should probably be eaten sparingly by those who choose to consume it. Preference should be given to grass-fed or otherwise less cultivated/processed sources of meat.

If this leads you to conclude that world-wide vegetarianism isn't imminent, I'm sure you're right. If this leads you to conclude that meat has a modest place in your diet, I have no quarrel. If this leads you to conclude that the environmental and human health consequences of eating meat are generally positive (especially in comparison to vegetarianism/veganism) you're being dishonest.

I have no interest in fighting over morality or dogma. I'm much more interested in statistics, and this is why I called you out in the first place.

Thanks again for responding to my comment.

Nutritonal value and other matters

I still do not understand this use of "dishonesty" when it is apparent that we have a genuine point of intellectual disagreement here -- to which I leave myself open to persuasion. Your ad hominem attacks are not forwarding a viable argument.

Anyway, there are at least two problems with your "importance of rice" point:

1) According to 1996 numbers analyzed by the USDA (from World Bank data) on 114 countries, 'breads and cereals' make up 53.8% of the world's diet, while 'meat' makes up 47.4%. ('fish': 13.8%, 'dairy': 26.9%.) So in the first place, meat sources feed an almost equal amount of people worldwide. Although I could not pull rice and chicken out of these data by themselves, I think the general numbers are profound enough to question the "sheer numbers" argument you are making.

Source (I crunched numbers using the "food budget shares"): http://www.ers.usda.gov/Data/InternationalFoodDemand/

2) When I speak of nutritional value, I am not simply referring to the number of people each feeds. Caloric contribution is an oversimplification of nutritional value. I am also referring to how much each contributes to levels of protein synthesis (e.g. bone density, muscle composition and metabolism), obesity (by itself, protein is far more anabolic and is stored less easily than carbohydrates or fat), and blood sugar/diabetes. There is a reason that protein intake correlates with more wealthy societies (other than having the means to purchase). While developed countries suffer from diseases of overabundance (like diabetes), they do *not* suffer from diseases of resource scarcity (like protein deficiency).

"Grand Prix of epidemiology" re: hardly! This study shows the same results as the one referenced in the article for which I originally refuted. Namely, it shows that fat intake in a high meat diet (primarily saturated fat) correlates with worse health. There is a ton of high-sat fat pork in the Chinese diet. This is simply repeating myself. Refer to the Harvard source on my article for more information on why this "Grand Prix" is nothing new.

"At the same time, it is important to note that there is a very strong correlation between ill health and volume of meat consumed."

Talk about a misuse of evidence! The study you references (along with many others) look at general meat consumption without controlling for type of meat or saturated fat intake. So no, this general correlation is bogus because it ignores the important detail. Again, reference the Harvard link.

"If this leads you to conclude that world-wide vegetarianism isn't imminent, I'm sure you're right. If this leads you to conclude that meat has a modest place in your diet, I have no quarrel."

Good. We ultimately agree.

Also, on my blog, someone recently made an interesting point for which I am brewing over to take a position. She basically said that another "compelling reason" to eat meat is the problem of what to do with all of the animals if we just up and stopped eating all meat. Apparently, even PETA has foreseen this as a problem! Interesting, though I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps you have some thoughts?

If you're interested, then you can read her full comment here: http://kevinslaten.blogspot.com/2009/06/eating-meat-is-bad-for-you-and-world_13.html

Thanks for the thoughts.

"breads and cereals' make up

"breads and cereals' make up 53.8% of the world's diet, while 'meat' makes up 47.4%. ('fish': 13.8%, 'dairy': 26.9)"

So, meat other than fish and dairy makes up 6.7% of the world's diet?

Rice apparently makes up 20% http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000267/index.html

Categories were not mutually exclusive

I think the categories were not mutually exclusive.

Not an ad hominem attack

First of all, please look up the definition of ad hominem. My suggestion that you are making a dishonest comparison is in no way an ad hominem attack. Trying to paint me with the 'ad hominem' brush is a weak debate strategy designed to draw attention away from my points.

Secondly, I maintain that your rice/poultry comparison falls apart. If poultry is responsible for 1% of global GHG emissions (as against 1.5% for rice), this would only be in poultry's favor if you had controlled for nutritive value and volume. You didn't do so. I certainly wasn't suggesting that calories or protein are the only measure of food value, I was just pointing out that a rote comparison - especially in the absence of a meaningful reference to the volume of rice consumed on the planet - is dishonest.

Your mangled 13-year old statistics about cereals vs. meat (with no explicit measure of poultry's share) don't add very much to this discussion. But, even if we do take it for granted that 'meat' provides 47.4% of the world's 'diet' [by volume? by calorie? by gram of protein?], the portion of the world's 'diet' provided by poultry is pretty tiny compared to rice. Seafood dwarfs poultry in the 'meat' category, and 'meat' is dwarfed by cereals. 'Fish and other seafood may be humanity’s most important food, after cereals, furnishing about 15 percent of the world population’s protein intake'. Thus, poultry furnishes a pretty tiny portion of the world's protein/calorie intake compared to rice. I recognize that you consider poultry to be ineffably better than rice, but you haven't really explained or quantified it in a way which redeems your dishonest comparison on the basis of GHG emissions.

Third, no offense, but you haven't 'refuted' the China-Cornell-Oxford Project data. All you've suggested is that greater nuance is needed. I don't disagree. If the best line you can glean from the HSPH article was that chicken & fish 'pose little risk to human health', you aren't operating from a very strong position. And, the 'Grand Prix of epidemiology' line comes from the New York Times - this is why it was in quotes. Your point that 'this general correlation is bogus because it ignores the important detail' is overstating matters pretty seriously. The study proves a correlation; this is irrefutable. Your only [tiny] point is that perhaps some sub-varieties of meat aren't as bad for you, and they might not be quite as bad for the environment as first thought. The position that you've carved out for meat consumption is exceedingly limited: Very occasional consumption of seafood/poultry in a diet otherwise based on plants is probably warranted. This was my original position, and I assume this was the genesis of your reply that 'we ultimately agree'.

But this is far closer to the vegetarian argument than to your initial bluster about 'fish and chicken are innocent of all charges. And even beef, lamb, and pork have their redeeming qualities'.

Finally, as for worries about what to do with animals if people stopped eating meat. Please. We have this massive reservoir of animals because the animals are perpetually bred. If people stopped breeding 'meat' animals and only consumed those animals currently alive, this 'problem' would solved in a matter of years. Let's stop wasting time on boring tangents.

Thanks for your response.

reply

rice vs. meat re: Before you deem evidence as "mangled", you ought to look at the evidence first. You apparently did not look at the link I sent you on the 13-year old study. If you did, then you would find explanations for the percentages. I am not going to compensate for your lack of investigative rigor with my time. If you really want to challenge the evidence, then look at it.

Oxford Project re: I do not refute the correlation. I trust that the scientists were being honest. I refute the causation, which, as you know, is a different thing. I will try to may this straightfoward: although there may be a correlation between meat and lipids (i.e. heart disease), it is a spurious relationship. The hidden indepedent variable is really saturated fat. As explained before, the high levels sat.fat and cholesterol in beef, lamb, pork, and some other meats will cause heart disease. Poultry, fish, shellfish, and others have the cholesterol without the high sat.fat -- this was the reason I used the Harvard website. So there is little risk in eating these types of meats.

If you want more evidence, then look at the following study, which compared diabetics on either a chicken-based, low-protein, or "normal" diet. The people eating chicken had *better* kidney function that the other groups and, most important for us, had no differences in their lipid profile. http://assets0.pubget.com/pdf/11919119.pdf

Furthermore, there are distinct advantages to eating higher protein in the diet -- levels that would be difficult to obtain through a veggie diet. For a fuller argument on this, please refer to the last two comments on this blog post: http://kevinslaten.blogspot.com/2009/06/eating-meat-is-bad-for-you-and-world_13.html#comments

And no where did I say that I agreed with "very occasional consumption". I explicitly referenced a quote by you for which I thought we agreed: "If this leads you to conclude that world-wide vegetarianism isn't imminent, I'm sure you're right. If this leads you to conclude that meat has a modest place in your diet, I have no quarrel."

The animal care issue: I basically said as much to Elizabeth in a response on the above blog comments section. I think that, as with any international agreement, animals could be phased out. So it is not as if we all stopped eating meat tomorrow and the animals were left to squander. (But this is all really an aside anyway because I do not think that animals *should* phased out of being used as food. I only think that *certain types* should be phased out -- as made clear above.)

Lastly, the quote from my article that you cited: "'fish and chicken are innocent of all charges. And even beef, lamb, and pork have their redeeming qualities'." This is a sore spot for me. As you may know, when publishing articles, editors sometimes take liberty. This particular set of sentences is not mine. It was added in. Although I agree that the protein in beef, lamb, and pork are "redeeming qualities", I still think their health and environmental qualities make them worth phasing out. Sorry for the confusion. This is a rare part of the above article that I was not responsible for -- and the style points do not justify the substance.

I look forward to your response.

Strange arguement

In looking at all the comments, the intensity of the vegans in wanting to push there beliefs down other peoples throats sounds a lot like religious fundamentalists and similar people who would kill you to save you from yourself. Reasoning relating to human nutrition in terms of amnio acid and fatty acid requirements is irrelevant.

Pointing out that DHA and EPA can be produced by algae by Martech then complaining about long food chains and energy conversion efficiency in producing meat ignores the fact that the DHA in question is produce in heterotrophic reactors whose conversion efficiency is not even as good as farmed salmon. Again, these technical details are irrelevant.

Remember: Plants can run away from predators so their defenses against being eaten are to poison or provide anti-nutritional factors to those who eat them. You can't survive on raw soy beans, period. Plants also communicate with each other telling others to increase their toxin production when they are being attacked. Without processing, most of our plant based food stuffs are not a suitable diet for humans.

To be truly healthy on a zero meat based diet takes a great effort and a great deal of knowledge. Throw in a little high quality, high digestibility meat and fish and you can get an excellent diet, without worrying about how much lysine is in which vegetable source at which life stage. Note that human health is better in countries with meat and people around the world want more meat when they have more money.

Also note that young humans, like puppies, need a higher protein, higher fat diet for growth than adults. If adults want to be vegan, not much of a problem with low demands for protein or long chain omega-3 fatty acids. Children are a different question.

I have personally never

I have personally never encountered a vegetarian or vegan that could be accused of "pushing their beliefs down other peoples' throats." In fact every single one that I have met (myself included) would like for people to make the change to a vegetarian or vegan diet THEMSELVES; we understand that mandating a diet to people does not work. Furthermore, my viewpoint is not a "belief", as if to say it is a religion that I follow. My KNOWLEDGE is grounded in science and fact.

You also distorted the argument concerning the production of omega-3's in the same manner that the article's author distorted greenhouse gas emissions from rice: the conversion efficiency may not be as good as eating fish, but it is cheaper to produce, requires an order of magnitude less farming area for a given amount produced, and has less environmental impact through its production.

I also do not understand your argument concerning unprocessed plant products. I cook my food, vegan though I may be. My homemade tempeh and tofu takes quite a bit of preparation from the raw, unprocessed plants to the finished product. I don't use any chemicals beyond what I need to clean the vegetables though.

As far as effort and knowledge being an impediment to a vegetarian or vegan diet... are we accepting laziness and ignorance as an excuse to continue supporting a meat production industry that we know is unsustainable? Throw out the whole "greenhouse gas" and "global warming" arguments and you are still left with the massive waste and pollution that factory farms produce. Dispense with the ethical considerations of the pain and suffering that the animals endure during their short, uncomfortable lives and the question of how to address the massive amounts of energy and pharmaceuticals consumed by livestock that are simply a non-factor in the production of plant-based foodstuffs.

If we are going to accept complacency as an argument and resign ourselves to the path of least resistance then yes, I suppose that we can continue to provide hundreds of millions of dollars a year in subsidies to factory farms that are polluting our land, destroying our water supply, and causing outbreaks of deadly infectious diseases.

"chicken production

"chicken production contributes no more than 1 percent to global GHG. Compare that with a vegetarian favorite -- rice -- which emits 1.5 percent of climate-heating gases."

Ok, but how many more people does rice feed? The important factor for deciding which food is more carbon-friendly is GHG produced per person fed, NOT the absolute amount of GHG emissions. I don't know if this error was made in ignorance or by design - you need to either learn some basic math, or stop deliberately misleading your readers.

Tom, thanks for the comment.

Tom, thanks for the comment. Please see the chain above.

Global Hunger

"Global hunger could be directly attributed to meat-eating." ---Chrissie Hynde

Half the world's population does not receive an adequate amount of food to eat. Ten to twenty million die annually of hunger and its effects. The Institute for Food and Development Policy reports that, "Forty thousand children starve to death on this planet every day," or one child every two seconds.

The livestock population of the United States today consumes enough grain and soybeans to feed over five times the entire human population of the country. We feed these animals over 80% of the corn we grow, and over 95% of the oats. Less than half the harvested agricultural acreage in the United States is used to grow food for people. Most of it is used to grow livestock feed.

Ronald J. Sider of Evangelicals for Social Action, in his 1977 book, Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger, pointed out that 220 million Americans were eating enough food (largely because of the high consumption of grain-fed livestock) to feed over one billion people in the poorer countries.

The world's cattle alone, not to mention pigs and chickens, consume a quantity of food equal to the caloric needs of 8.7 billion people. It takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of beef. According to Department of Agriculture statistics, one acre of land can grow 20,000 pounds of potatoes. That same acre of land, if used to grow cattlefeed, can produce less than 165 pounds of beef.

In his book, The Hungry Planet, Georg Bergstrom points out that protein-starved underdeveloped nations export more protein to wealthy nations than they receive. He calls this "the protein swindle." Ninety percent of the world's fish meal catch, for example, is exported to rich countries. One-third of Africa's peanut crop winds up in the stomachs of European livestock. Half the world's cereal crop is fed to livestock and the United States annually imports one million tons of vegetable protein from Third World nations--just to feed its farm animals.

Bergstrom writes: "Sometimes one wonders how many Americans and Western Europeans have grasped the fact that quite a few of their beef steaks, quarts of milk, dozens of eggs, and hundreds of broilers are the result, not of their agriculture, but of the approximately two million metric tons of protein, mostly of high quality, which astute Western businessmen channel away from the needy and hungry."

Jeremy Rifkin, author of a dozen influential books and President of the Foundation on Economic Trends, writes in his 1992 bestseller Beyond Beef:

"Cattle and other livestock are devouring much of the grain produced on the planet. It need be emphasized that this is a new phenomenon, unlike anything ever experienced before.

"Contrary to popular belief, the poor are getting poorer each year...Increased poverty has meant increased malnutrition. On the African continent, nearly one in every four human beings is malnourished. In Latin America, nearly one out of every seven people goes to bed hungry each night. In Asia and the Pacific, 28 percent of the people border on starvation, experiencing the gnawing pain of a perpetual hunger."

"In the Near East, one in ten people is underfed. Chronic hunger now affects upwards of 1.3 billion people, according to the world Health Organization--a statistic all the more striking in a world where one third of all the grain produced is being fed to cattle and other livestock. Never before in human history has such a large percentage of our species--nearly 25 percent--been malnourished.

"The transition of world agriculture from food grain to feed grains represents an...evil whose consequences may be far greater and longer lasting than any past examples of violence inflicted by men against their fellow human beings."

In the 1970s, the United Nations Secretary General said that the food consumption of the rich countries is the key cause of hunger around the world. The United Nations has recommended that the wealthy nations cut down on their meat consumption.

The Worldwatch Institute has released a remarkable report entitled Taking Stock: Animal Farming and the Environment, which lists nation after nation where food deprivation has followed the switch from a grain-based diet to a meat-based one.

Most of the nations that now import grain from the United States were once self-sufficient in grain. The main reason they aren't is the rise in meat production and consumption.

In Taiwan, for example, per capita consumption of meat and eggs increased 600 percent from 1950 to 1990. With this change, vastly increased amounts of grain have gone to livestock, raising the annual per capita grain use in the country from 375 pounds to 858 pounds. In 1950, Taiwan was a grain exporter; in 1990 the nation imported, mostly for feed, 74 percent of the grain it used.

In mainland China, the situation is similar. Increased meat consumption has meant less grain available to feed people. Since 1978, meat consumption has more than doubled, to twenty-four kilograms. The share of Chinese grain fed to livestock rose from 7 percent in 1960 to 20 percent in 1990.

Over half Of Latin America's beef production is exported, and the rest is too expensive for any but the wealthy to purchase. From 1960 to 1980 beef exports from El Salvador increases over sixfold. Meanwhile, increasing numbers of small farmers lost their livelihood and were pushed off their land. Today, 72 percent of all Salvadoran infants are underfed.

In Brazil, major portions of the Amazon tropical rain forests have been destroyed so that wealthy multinational corporations can produce beef for the wealthy. Corporations such as Volkswagen, Nestle, Mitsubishi, Liquigas, King Ranch, and Swift-Eckrich have bulldozed and burned literally hundreds of millions of acres, replacing the world's oldest and richest ecosystems, home to two million or more species of plant and animal life with a single crop--pasture grass for cattle. And here, the beef produced has not gone to feed hungry Brazilians; it has been primarily exported to Western Europe, the Middle East, and North America. In 1987, the United States imported three hundred million pounds of meat from countries in Central and South America.

With the help of international lending institutions, Brazil has mounted an enormous effort to increase agricultural production, but this has been primarily meat-oriented production and for export. In the late '60s, soybeans were almost nonexistent or Brazil. Today, this crop is the nation's number one export--but almost all of it goes to feed Japanese and European livestock. Twenty five years ago, one third of the Brazilian population suffered from malnutrition. Today, the figure has risen to two thirds.

Oxfam, the international charity, reports that in Brazil huge cattle ranches take up some of the most fertile soil in the whole country, yet 60 percent of Brazilians are malnourished. Oxfam estimates that in Mexico, 80 percent of the children in rural areas are undernourished, yet the livestock are fed more grain than the human population eats! The livestock are exported of course, to satisfy the developed nations' craving for cheap hamburgers.

In the early '60s, sorghum was almost unknown in Mexico. But by 1980, it covered literally twice the acreage of wheat. Sorghum isn't grown for humans. It is fed to livestock. In the late '60s, livestock consumed only 6 percent of Mexico's grain. Today, the figure is over 50 percent. This is a trend throughout the Third World. Copying the United States' meat-oriented diet, these poor countries devote increasing percentages of their resources to meat production.

In Guatemala, 75 percent of the children under five years of age are undernourished. Yet, every year Guatemala exports 40 million pounds of meat to the United States. It borders on the criminal!

In Costa Rica, beef production quadrupled between 1960 and 1980, but almost all this beef is exported to the United States, and what does stay in the country is eaten by a tiny minority. Though more and more Costa Rican land is being turned over to meat production, the population is not eating more meat for the change. The average family in Costa Rica eats less meat than the average American housecat.

Throughout Latin America, land availability is a prominent social issue. Revolutionaries as well as reform-minded moderates have made land reform a major issue. Yet in many Latin American countries, forests are being leveled in order to create pastures for cattle grazing land.

In a region where land availability is a central social issue, existing land is being gobbled up by livestock agriculture. The resulting social tensions have resulted in civil wars, repression and violence.

Hunger is really a social disease caused by the unjust, inefficient and wasteful control of food. Our food security is not being threatened by the prolific, hungry masses, but by elites that profit by the concentration and internationalization of control of food resources.

In country after country the pattern is repeated. Livestock industries are consuming feed to such an extent that now almost all Third World nations must import grain. Seventy-five percent of Third World imports of corn, barley, sorghum, and oats are fed to animals, not to people. In country after country, the demand for meat among the rich is squeezing out staple production for the poor.

The same trend can be found in the Middle East and North Africa--increases in grain-fed livestock require more imported feed. In the early '70s, Egypt was self-sufficient in grain. Then, livestock ate only 10 percent of the nation's grain. Today, livestock consume 36 percent of Egypt's grain. As a result, Egypt must now import eight million tons of grain every year.

In the late '60s , Syria was a barley exporter. But in the intervening years, livestock has consumed increasing amounts of the country's grain. Now, despite a phenomenal 1,000 percent increase in the land area devoted to producing barley, Syria must import the cereal.

According to Buckminster Fuller, there are enough resources at present to feed, clothe, house and educate every human being on the planet at American middle class standards. The Institute for Food and Development Policy has shown that there is no country in the world in which the people cannot feed themselves from their own resources.

Moreover, there is no correlation between land density and hunger. China has twice as many people per cultivated acre as India, yet less of a hunger problem. Bangladesh has just one-half the people per cultivated acre that Taiwan has, yet Taiwan has no starvation, while Bangladesh has one of the highest rates in the world. The most densely populated countries in the world today are not India and Bangladesh, but Holland and Japan.

Many of us believe that hunger exists because there's not enough food to go around. But as Frances Moore Lappe' and her anti-hunger organization Food First! have shown, the real cause of hunger is a scarcity of justice, not a scarcity of food.

Global Hunger

"Half the world's population does not receive an adequate amount of food to eat. Ten to twenty million die annually of hunger and its effects. The Institute for Food and Development Policy reports that, "Forty thousand children starve to death on this planet every day," or one child every two seconds."

Global hunger has nothing to do with meat production. No one goes hungry because food they grew goes to feed beef cattle in the West. Some people go hungry because of the lack of economic development in their countries, which has nothing to do with meat. But many *more* people, most of the world's hungry, go hungry because it is more convenient to their callous and corrupt political masters that they go hungry than that they are fed.

Zimbabwe is a perfect example of this. It used to be the breadbasket of southern Africa, it was properous for years after the colonial government was tossed out. Now it's a wasteland of starvation. Why? because all the food they grow is sent to feed American pigs and cattle? Of course not - Zimbabwean hunger is solely the product of Robert Mugabe's recent policies.

North Korea is another example. Somalia is a third. How much grain from either has gone to feed cattle in other countries?

History shows the same pattern. Armenia in the 1910s. Ukraine in the 30s. India in the 40s. China in the 50s. All of these horrible famines have one thing in common: mass starvation was the result of government policies either deliberately meant to starve undesired populations, or utterly indifferent to the suffering and death their policies would result in.

Look around the world for large numbers of starving people and you will always find them where the local political leaders enact policies that promote starvation.

Blaming dictators is

Blaming dictators is convenient, but you neglect one of the most simple directives of economics:

You need market demand to sell a product.

Many dictators that are exporting food from their country for personal gain are ABLE to do so because there is a market demand for that food. The demand is being created by the need to feed livestock which are being used for meat production, predominantly in factory farms. As the author of the incredibly well-written post that we are now discussing has pointed out with clear facts and citations from experts who know more about this matter than you and I ever will, there are many nations with huge numbers of starving people who are exporting food for profit -- food that is being used to feed livestock that are being used for meat production.

There is no single factor here, and your statement of "Global hunger has nothing to do with meat production" is naive at best and a blatant lie at worst. It is true that there are indeed terrible people in the world who are deliberately starving their populace as a means of exerting their power; I will not disagree or debate that point. However, there are many, many more nations that have legitimate, legally-established companies that are participating in the unethical practice of exporting locally-grown produce away from starving populations because it is more profitable -- MUCH more profitable -- to sell those products as feed for livestock that are being used for meat production.

If you removed or dramatically reduced the demand for livestock feed by removing or dramatically reducing worldwide meat consumption then the agriculture that is being diverted away from those starving populations could be put to better use... by feeding those starving populations.

The rights of animals

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts.

As is evidenced in many of the comments here, I did not discuss the issue of animal rights in my argument. This was for two primary reasons:

1) space restrictions.

2) More importantly, this issue is too fundamental. The beings for which we include in our "moral bubble" is at the base of a person's system of beliefs, and like someone's religious beliefs, it is very difficult to change. So far be it from me to try. No level of data on health benefits or environmental damage is going to change a person's mind who has already decided that killing an animal is murder. I respect this view, but I do not share it.

At the same time, while I do not equate a human and another animal morally, I certainly do not *prefer* the suffering associated with factory farming. And in every instance where it is possible, I am fully for reducing the suffering of animals. But it is my view that humans benefit sufficiently from animal food products to justify the consumption of *some* animals (see article above for the emphasis on differentiating between animals that we should and should not be eating for health and environmental reasons).

Lastly, I strongly agree with PETA -- which shares many of the views on this comment board -- that in vitro meat needs to be quickly developed and perfected for mass consumption. When this occurs, then I think that our differing sets of values will both be appeased.

real costs

If the real costs of meat, in terms of environmental degradation and greenhouse gas emission, are made part of the cost (through carbon taxes and the like) and subsidies are removed then it seems very likely that per capita meat consumption would decline. This seems part of the overarching problem of not properly valuating certain resources.
There is room for skepticism about in-vitro meat as well. Even if/after technical hurdles are overcome, meat production will always be far more resource-intensive than vegetable production, because of the energy loss inherent in the conversion and the additional infrastructure required. It seems unclear how much more efficient this process would be than using actual animals. Does seem worth exploring, however...

human anatomy shows we're frugivorous

The frugivores (gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates) have intestinal tracts twelve times the length of the body, clawless hands and alkaline urine and saliva. Their diet is mostly vegetarian, occasionally supplemented with carrion, insects, etc.

Flesh-eating animals lap water with their tongue, whereas vegetarian animals imbibe liquids by a suction process. Humans are classified as primates and are thus frugivores possessing a set of completely herbivorous teeth. Proponents of the theory that humans should be classified as omnivores note that human beings do, in fact, possess a modified form of canine teeth. However, these so-called "canine teeth" are much more prominent in animals that traditionally never eat flesh, such as apes, camels, and the male musk deer.

It must also be noted that the shape, length and hardness of these so-called "canine teeth" can hardly be compared to those of true carnivorous animals. A principle factor in determining the hardness of teeth is the phosphate of magnesia content. Human teeth usually contain 1.5 percent phosphate of magnesia, whereas the teeth of carnivores are composed of nearly 5 percent phosphate of magnesia. It is for this reason they are able to break through the bones of their prey, and reach the nutritious marrow.

Zoologist Desmond Morris makes a case for vegetarianism in his 1967 book, The Naked Ape: "It could be argued that, since our primate ancestors had to make do without a major meat component in their diets we should be able to do the same. We were driven to become flesh eaters only by environmental circumstances, and now that we have the environment under control, with elaborately cultivated crops at our disposal, we might be expected to return to our ancient feeding patterns."

In The Human Story, edited by Marie-Louise Makris (1985), we read: "...recent studies of their teeth reveal that the Australopithecines did not eat meat as a regular part of their diet, and were mainly peaceful vegetarians, rather like chimps or gorillas. The popular image of the murderous ape is now as extinct as the Australopithecines themselves."

Dr. Gordon Latto notes that carnivorous and omnivorous animals can only move their jaws up and down, and that omnivores "have a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth, a blunt tooth, a sharp tooth--showing that they were destined to deal both with flesh foods from the animal kingdom and foods from the vegetable kingdom...

"Carnivorous mammals and omnivorous mammals cannot perspire except at the extremity of the limbs and the tip of the nose; man perspires all over the body. Finally, our instincts; the carnivorous mammal (which first of all has claws and canine teeth) is capable of tearing flesh asunder, whereas man only partakes of flesh foods after they have been camouflaged by cooking and by condiments.

"Man instinctively is not carnivorous," explains Dr. Latto. "...he takes the flesh food after somebody else has killed it, and after it has been cooked and camouflaged with certain condiments. Whereas to pick an apple off a tree or eat some grain or a carrot is a natural thing to do; people enjoy doing it; they don't feel disturbed by it. But to see these animals being slaughtered does affect people; it offends them. Even the toughest of people are affected by the sights in the slaughterhouse.

"I remember taking some medical students into a slaughterhouse. They were about as hardened people as you could meet. After seeing the animals slaughtered that day in the slaughterhouse, not one of them could eat the meat that evening."

Author R.H. Weldon writes in No Animal Food:

"The gorge of a cat, for instance, will rise at the smell of a mouse or a piece of raw flesh, but not at the aroma of fruit. If a man can take delight in pouncing upon a bird, tear its still living body apart with his teeth, sucking the warm blood, one might infer that Nature had provided him with a carnivorous instinct, but the very thought of doing such a thing makes him shudder. On the other hand, a bunch of luscious grapes makes his mouth water, and even in the absence of hunger, he will eat fruit to gratify taste."

As far back as 1961, the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that: "A vegetarian diet can prevent 97% of our coronary occlusions." More recently, William S. Collens and Gerald B. Dobkens concluded: "Examination of the dental structure of modern man reveals that he possesses all the features of a strictly herbivorous animal. While designed to subsist on vegetarian foods, he has perverted his dietary habits to accept food of the carnivore. It is postulated that man cannot handle carnivorous foods like the carnivore. Herein may lie the basis for the high incidence of arteriosclerotic disease."

Keith Akers in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983), responds to the argument that killing animals for food is natural:

"This is quite an admirable argument. It explains practically everything; why we do not eat each other, except under conditions of unusual stress; why we may kill certain other animals (they are, in the order of nature, food for us); even why we should be kind to pets and try to help miscellaneous wildlife (they are not naturally our food). There are some problems with the idea that an order of nature determines which species are food for us, but an examination of human history indicates the broad outlines of just such an order, though inhibitions against eating certain species may vary from culture to culture.

"The main problem with this argument is that it does not justify the practice of meat-eating or animal husbandry as we know it today; it justifies hunting. The distinction between hunting and animal husbandry probably seems rather fine to the man in the street, or even to your typical rule-utilitarian moral philosopher. The distinction, however, is obvious to an ecologist. If one defends killing on the grounds that it occurs in nature, then one is defending the practice as it occurs in nature.

"When one species of animal preys on another in nature, it only preys on a very small proportion of the total species population. Obviously, the predator species relies on its prey for its continued survival. Therefore, to wipe the prey species out through overhunting would be fatal. In practice, members of such predator species rely on such strategies as territoriality to restrict overhunting and to insure the continued existence of its food supply.

"Moreover, only the weakest members of the prey species are the predator's victims: the feeble, the sick, the lame, or the young accidentally separated from the fold. The life of the typical zebra is usually placid, even in lion country; this kind of violence is the exception in nature, not the rule.

"As it exists in the wild, hunting is the preying upon isolated members of an animal herd. Animal husbandry is the nearly complete annihilation of an animal herd. In nature, this kind of slaughter does not exist. The philosopher is free to argue that there is no moral difference between hunting and slaughter, but he cannot invoke nature as a defense of this idea.

"Why are hunters, not butchers, most frequently taken to task by the larger community for their killing of animals? Hunters usually react to such criticism by replying that if hunting is wrong, then meat-hunting must be wrong as well. The hunter is certainly right on one point--the larger community is hypocritical to object to hunting when it consumes the flesh of domesticated animals. If any form of meat-eating is justified, it would be meat from a hunted animal."

In his 1975 book, Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes:

"Killing an animal is in itself a troubling act. It has been said that if we had to kill our own meat we would all be vegetarians. There may be exceptions to that general rule, but it is true that most people prefer not to inquire into the killing of the animals they eat.

"Very few people ever visit a slaughterhouse; and films of slaughterhouse operations are rarely shown on television...Yet those who, by their purchases, require animals to be killed have no right to be shielded from this or any other aspect of the production of the meat they buy.

"If it is distasteful for humans to think about, what can it be like for the animals to experience it?"

Peter Singer concludes in Animal Liberation that "by ceasing to rear and kill animals for food, we can make extra food available for humans that, properly distributed, it would eliminate starvation and malnutrition from this planet. Animal Liberation is Human Liberation, too."

Dr. Milton Mills' "The Comparative Anatomy of Eating,"

www.vegsource.com/veg_faq/comparative.htm

and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine,

www.pcrm.org ,

argue persuasively that the optimal diet for humanity is a vegan diet. However, even if humans really are omnivores and not frugivores, the diet of natural omnivores is mostly (80 percent) plant food.

Curious choice of image

Curious choice of image considering this article is supposed to be in defense of eating meat.

Your argument is, for the most part, balanced - and since I happen to be a vegetarian (a bit of a militant one), that's high praise :)

Here's what I might have appreciated though - yes, I do agree that meat eating is not something that will go away...and there is enough moral ambiguity in the issue to make me wonder if it even should. But your article doesn't make any concessions to the way meat is produced and consumed today- which is unhealthy and unsustainable. If the world continues in this manner, then meat should go away. Compare this to oil - we're not moving away from an oil-based lifestyle anytime soon, but any reasonable person can recognize that our dependence on oil is unsustainable and dangerous. Its infuriating that despite being a responsible citizen of the world, I have to deal with sky high commodity prices and the increased risk of global warming because of some jackass who drives a hummer, doesn't care about conservation and is irresponsible in his consumption.

Its the same issue here. You probably know this - but even in a place like California, about 98% of the people I know have no concept of a vegetarian meal. They're addicted to meat in the sense that a meal without meat is inconcievable. How is this a reasonable lifestyle? I dont have to remind you of the ads on TV that try and outdo each other on how much meat a sandwich contains. If India, China and other emerging economies were to adopt this lifestyle, as they surely will in a few years, we can kiss this planet goodbye.

I do believe that the reason we see so many articles defending meat is because meat eaters are begining to feel a little cornered. Earlier, it was easy to dismiss the moral question - but today, eating meat represents more than the lack of respect for life. Today, eating meat, and yes this has to mostly do with red meat, has become a poster child for heart disease, global warming, world hunger and environmental pollution - issues that are harder to ignore. Its difficult to curse the guy next door with the Hummer or the big bad oil company,when you have no intention of moderating your meat consumption.

For us vegetarians, I would urge moderating your stance on meat. Meat eating is like prostitution - it aint goin away - ever. Where we can make a fundamental difference is encouraging people to respect life, even the life that you eat, so you don't treat it like an economic unit. Factory farming is an abomination that should not continue. On the other hand, protesting the President killing a fly annoying him or being radically opposed to any kind of meat, even one that is ethically raised, does more damage to this cause than any meat defender ever could.

Eating Meat

I'm skeptical that if we all refused to eat meat, the poor around the world would suddenly be fed properly. The corrupt elites in Third World countries, and even here in the U.S.A., have no intention of handing over either political power or sufficient food for the poor. Most food aid to these countries ends up being sold at black market prices by rich politicians and their friends. This money they make from it goes into their Swiss bank accounts.

If we're going to gradually go veg, we should do it just on the grounds that there is no totally humane way to slaughter the animal, that it still is afraid, and it just wants to live.

Meat does not have to mean "factory farmed"

The way we currently raise, kill, and prepare the animals whose flesh we consume is unsustainable, wasteful, cruel and inhumane. Fixing those issues does not mean eliminating meat from our diets.

Meat animals can be raised and harvested in ways that are sustainable and humane. This will require laws and consumer awareness to prevent factory farms from continuing to externalize their costs. Of course, meat derived from responsibly managed animals will cost more. As buyers of meat, it pays to know how a particular chicken or pig or cow lived and if that kind of life should be supported with our purchasing dollars.

As someone who is essentially a carnivore for health reasons (google "paleolithic diet"), I feel that eliminating meat from our diet would be a monumental mistake. Even aside from the dangerous loss of HDL promoting saturated fats from our diet and the near guaranteed replacement of healthy lipids with insulin inducing starches, eliminating meat from the human diet is an invitation to the real dangers of modern food industry: processed franken-substances that don't deserve to be called food.

In the meantime, I buy pasture-raised beef and I am a responsible hunter, taking personal responsibility for minimizing the suffering of the animals my family eats. IMHO, both of those options are far more ethical sources of healthy sustenance than the shrink-wrapped slabs of lifelong suffering that can be found in the supermarket. I assert that they are even more ethical than the veggie-burgers made from industrial soy farms that destroy small animal and bird habitats while permanently degrading the agricultural capacity of our planet's soil.

Conflating meat with industrial food practices limits consideration to unhealthy and unacceptable compromises and keeps the discussion far away from the real problems that pervade the modern food creation and distribution system.

a progressive cause

A vegetarian since 1982, I attended my first anti-vivisection protest in the spring of 1985, as anti-apartheid demonstrations rocked the UC San Diego campus. I first got interested in promoting vegetarianism in mainstream society after reading John Robbins' Diet for a New America (1987). Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, it makes veganism seem as reasonable and mainstream as recycling.

Half the water consumed in the U.S. goes to irrigate land growing feed and fodder for livestock. Huge amounts of water wash away their excrement. U.S. livestock produce 20 times as much excrement as does the entire human population; creating sewage which is 10 to several hundred times more concentrated than raw domestic sewage. Animal wastes cause 10 times more water pollution than does the U.S. human population; the meat industry causes three times as much harmful organic water pollution than the rest of the nation's industries combined. Meat producers, the number one industrial polluters in our nation, contribute to half the water pollution in the United States.

Joanna Macy, author of Despair and Personal Power in the Nuclear Age, depicts the advantages of America moving towards a vegan diet in her foreword to Diet for a New America:

"The effects on our physical health are immediate. The incidence of cancer and heart attack, the nation's biggest killers, drops precipitously. So do many other diseases now demonstrably and causally linked to consumption of animal proteins and fats, such as osteoporosis...

"The social, ecological, and economic consequences, as we Americans turn away from animal food products, are equally remarkable. We find that the grain we previously fed to fatten livestock can now feed five times the U.S. population; so we have become able to alleviate malnutrition and hunger on a worldwide scale...

"The great forests of the world, that we had been decimating for grazing purposes, begin to grow again. Oxygen-producing trees are no longer sacrificed for cholesterol-producing steaks.

"The water crisis eases. As we stop raising and grinding up cattle for hamburgers, we discover that ranching and farm factories had been the major drain on our water resources. The amount now available for irrigation and hydroelectric power doubles. Meanwhile, the change in diet frees over 90% of the fossil fuel previously used to produce food. With this liberation of water energy and fossil fuel energy, our reliance on oil imports declines, as does the rationale for building nuclear power plants..."

Joanna Macy admits, "This scenario is wildly, absurdly utopian. It is also clearly the way we are meant to live, built to live." What could possibly make it a reality? "It is this very book!"

Roberta Kalechofsky of Jews for Animal Rights similarly says:

"Merely by ceasing to eat meat
Merely by practicing restraint
We have the power to end a painful industry

"We do not have to bear arms to end this evil
We do not have to contribute money
We do not have to sit in jail or go to
meetings or demonstrations or
engage in acts of civil disobedience

"Most often, the act of repairing the world,
of healing mortal wounds,
is left to heroes and tzaddikim (holy people)
Saints and people of unusual discipline

"But here is an action every mortal can
perform--surely it is not too difficult!"

When I first read Diet for a New America, I felt it could have the same kind of impact on mainstream American society that Frances Moore Lappe's Diet for a Small Planet had in the '70s.

In writing his expose on the meat industry, John Robbins has been compared to Rachel Carson, Ralph Nader and other whistleblowers. In Diet for a New America, he demonstrates how all the various causes that concern the Left: healthcare, a sustainable energy policy, hunger, malnutrition, etc. are all taken care of in one fell swoop by a vegan diet. I had the opportunity to meet John Robbins, in September 1988. It was one of the most inspirational moments of my life!

He was heir to the Baskin-Robbins fortune. He renounced it at a young age. He traveled to India, opened a yoga ashram in Canada, etc. He spoke of Gandhi and nonviolence. His son Ocean Robbins founded Youth for Environmental Sanity (YES!) and is also dedicated to promoting veganism. I asked John if he would try and get the American Left to support animal rights. He told me that he had sent a copy of his book to Mother Jones, a left-liberal periodical published in San Francisco.

Many on the Left are beginning to take a stand in favor of animal rights. Joanna Macy spoke at the San Francisco Green Festival, in November 2005. In his 1990 updated and revised edition of Animal Liberation, Australian philosopher Peter Singer writes that many of the political parties leaning towards the "Green" end of the political spectrum in Europe were beginning to oppose animal experimentation.

John Robbins spoke before the United Nations in 1994, where he received a standing ovation.

death to diabetics

a diabetic With proper medication can process between 60 and 180 grams of carbs in a day. This level of carbohydrate intake keeps the blood sugar below 140ml/dl ) Threshold of nerve damage) and reduces damaging spikes.

You can't do that on a vegetarian diet. a cup of rice is 22 carbs and 170cal. Eat that plus some veggies and you will max out your meal carbohydrate limit while taking in less than half your calories. (Assuming 2200 calorie intake needed for tall guy weight loss. ycnwv). Moving to other high carbohydrate protein sources, is a seriously good chance that you will end up protein deficient in addition to calorie deficient.

So this is why I say that vegetarian meal plans are death to diabetics.

Please Don't Eat the Animals (excerpts)

The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:

"A reduction in beef and other meat consumption is the most potent single act you can take to halt the destruction of our environment and preserve our natural resources. Our choices do matter: What's healthiest for each of us personally is also healthiest for the life support system of our precious, but wounded planet."

---John Robbins, author, Diet for a New America, and President, EarthSave Foundation

One study puts animal waste in the United States to between 2.4 trillion to 3.9 trillion pounds per year. The United states produces 15,000 pounds of manure per person. This is 130 times the amount of waste produced by the entire human population of the United States.

A 1,000-cow dairy can produce approximately 120,000 pounds of waste per day. This is the functional equivalent of the amount of sanitary waste produced by a city of 20,000 people.

A 20,000-chicken factory produces about 2.4 million pounds of manure a year. Poultry factories are one of the fastest growing industries throughout Asia.

One pig excretes nearly three gallons of waste per day, or 2.5 times the average human's daily total. One hog farm with 50,000 pigs in France produces more waste than the entire city of Los Angeles, and some pig farms are much larger.

Factory farm pollution is the primary source of damage to coastal waters in North and South America, Europe, and Asia. Scientists report that over sixty percent of the coastal waters in the United States are moderately to severely degraded from factory farm nutrient pollution. This pollution creates oxygen-depleted dead zones, which are huge areas of ocean devoid of aquatic life.

Meat production causes deforestation, which then contributes to global warming. Trees convert carbon dioxide into oxygen, and the destruction of forests around the globe to make room for grazing cattle furthers the greenhouse effect. The Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations reports that the annual rate of tropical deforestation has increased from 9 million hectares in 1980 to 16.8 million hectares in 1990, and unfortunately, this destruction has accelerated since then. By 1994, a staggering 200 million hectares of rainforest had been destroyed in South America just for cattle.

"The impact of countless hooves and mouths over the years has done more to alter the type of vegetation and land forms of the West than all the water projects, strip mines, power plants, freeways, and sub-division developments combined."

---Philip Fradkin, in Audubon, National Audubon Society, New York

Agricultural meat production generates air pollution. As manure decomposes, it releases over 400 volatile organic compounds, many of which are extremely harmful to human health. Nitrogen, a major by-product of animal wastes, changes to ammonia as it escapes into the air, and this is a major source of acid rain. Worldwide, livestock produce over 30 million tons of ammonia. Hydrogen sulfide, another chemical released from animal waste, can cause irreversible neurological damage, even at low levels.

The World Conservation Union lists over 1,000 different fish species that are threatened or endangered. According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) estimate, over 60 percent of the world's fish species are either fully exploited or depleted. Commercial fish populations of cod, hake, haddock, and flounder have fallen by as much as 95 percent in the north Atlantic.

The United States and Europe lose several billion tons of topsoil each year from cropland and grazing land, and 84 percent of this erosion is caused by livestock agriculture. While this soil is theoretically a renewable resource, we are losing soil at a much faster rate than we are able to replace it. It takes 100 to 500 years to produce one inch of topsoil, but due to livestock grazing and feeding, farming areas can lose up to six inches of topsoil a year.

Livestock production affects a startling 70 to 85 percent of the land area of the United States, United Kingdom, and the European Union. That includes the public and private rangeland used for grazing, as well as the land used to produce the crops that feed the animals. By comparison, urbanization only affects 3 percent of the United States land area, slightly larger for the European Union and the United Kingdom. Meat production consumes the world's land resources.

Half of all fresh water worldwide is used for thirsty livestock. Producing eight ounces of beef requires an unimaginable 25,000 liters of water, or the water necessary for one pound of steak equals the water consumption of the average household for a year.

The United States government spends $10 million each year to kill an estimated 100,000 wild animals, including coyotes, foxes, bobcats, badgers, bears, and mountain lions just to placate ranchers who don't want these animals killing their livestock. The cost far outweighs the damage to livestock that these predators cause.

The Worldwatch Institute estimates one pound of steak from a steer raised in a feedlot costs: five pounds of grain, a whopping 2,500 gallons of water, the energy equivalent of a gallon of gasoline, and about 34 pounds of topsoil.

33 percent of our nation's raw materials and fossil fuels go into livestock destined for slaughter. In a vegan economy, only 2 percent of our resources will go to the production of food.

"It seems disingenuous for the intellectual elite of the first world to dwell on the subject of too many babies being born in the second- and third-world nations while virtually ignoring the overpopulation of cattle and the realities of a food chain that robs the poor of sustenance to feed the rich a steady diet of grain-fed meat."

---Jeremy Rifkin, author, Beyond Beef: The Rise and Fall of the Cattle Culture, and president of the Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

Lester Brown of the Overseas Development Council calculates that if Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent per year, it would free at least 12 million tons of grain for human consumption--or enough to feed 60 million people.

Flawed comparison

The author links to a PDF that he claims shows that :

True, the industry overall may emit 18 percent of all GHG, but the beef sector emits 13 times as much as the poultry sector, meaning that chicken production contributes no more than 1 percent to global GHG. Compare that with a vegetarian favorite -- rice -- which emits 1.5 percent of climate-heating gases.

The chart he refers to, which compares beef and "vegetarian favorite" rice is not calorie-to-calorie, or even acre-to-acre. As the comparison is based on absolute production of GHGs by various agricultural sectors, the author's claim is disingenuous at best. A much more germane question is: How many people can be fed on the rice that allegedly produces 1.5% of the GHGs? How many calories can be derived from the cows that apparently produce so much less? Finally, why is rice singled out as a "vegetarian favorite?" To play the author's game, in absolute terms, the number of meat-eaters who consume rice must be many times the number of vegetarians who do so. Look at China.

Dubious claims like the one in the piece are another reminder that statistics are essential for clear, precise journalism, but that they require logical interpretation. Authors and readers misunderstand statistics at their own peril.

Repeat

I appreciate your comment, but I would suggest referring to a chain above in which I address this concern with another reader.

So many reasons beyond these.....

Eating meat is now generally viewed as an ethical issue. Do you want to participate is a system of intensive confinement of animals, where all decent animal husbandry has vanished? We respect our pets, but treat farm animals as if they were not part of the animal kingdom. Well, they are, and the lives they lead before slaughter is unethical. Do you want to be part of this system foisted upon you by corporate meat producers?

"The Comparative Anatomy of Eating" by Dr. Milton Mills

From

"The Comparative Anatomy of Eating", by Milton R. Mills, MD

Which category are humans most suited for?

*Facial Muscles*
CARNIVORE: Reduced to allow wide mouth gape
OMNIVORE: Reduced
HERBIVORE: Well-developed
HUMAN: Well-developed

*Jaw Type*
CARNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HERBIVORE: Expanded angle
OMNIVORE: Angle not expanded
HUMAN: Expanded angle

*Jaw Joint Location*
CARNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HERBIVORE: Above the plane of the molars
OMNIVORE: On same plane as molar teeth
HUMAN: Above the plane of the molars

*Jaw Motion*
CARNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side motion
HERBIVORE: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back
OMNIVORE: Shearing; minimal side-to-side
HUMAN: No shear; good side-to-side, front-to-back

*Major Jaw Muscles*
CARNIVORE: Temporalis
HERBIVORE: Masseter and pterygoids
OMNIVORE: Temporalis
HUMAN: Masseter and pterygoids

*Mouth Opening vs. Head Size*
CARNIVORE: Large
HERBIVORE: Small
OMNIVORE: Large
HUMAN: Small

*Teeth: Incisors*
CARNIVORE: Short and pointed
HERBIVORE: Broad, flattened and spade shaped
OMNIVORE: Short and pointed
HUMAN: Broad, flattened and spade shaped

*Teeth: Canines*
CARNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HERBIVORE: Dull and short or long (for defense), or none
OMNIVORE: Long, sharp and curved
HUMAN: Short and blunted

*Teeth: Molars*
CARNIVORE: Sharp, jagged and blade shaped
HERBIVORE: Flattened with cusps vs complex surface
OMNIVORE: Sharp blades and/or flattened
HUMAN: Flattened with nodular cusps

*Chewing*
CARNIVORE: None; swallows food whole
HERBIVORE: Extensive chewing necessary
OMNIVORE: Swallows food whole and/or simple crushing
HUMAN: Extensive chewing necessary

*Saliva*
CARNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HERBIVORE: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes
OMNIVORE: No digestive enzymes
HUMAN: Carbohydrate digesting enzymes

*Stomach Type*
CARNIVORE: Simple
HERBIVORE: Simple or multiple chambers
OMNIVORE: Simple
HUMAN: Simple

*Stomach Acidity*
CARNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HERBIVORE: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach
OMNIVORE: Less than or equal to pH 1 with food in stomach
HUMAN: pH 4 to 5 with food in stomach

*Stomach Capacity*
CARNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HERBIVORE: Less than 30% of total volume of digestive tract
OMNIVORE: 60% to 70% of total volume of digestive tract
HUMAN: 21% to 27% of total volume of digestive tract

*Length of Small Intestine*
CARNIVORE: 3 to 6 times body length
HERBIVORE: 10 to more than 12 times body length
OMNIVORE: 4 to 6 times body length
HUMAN: 10 to 11 times body length

*Colon*
CARNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HERBIVORE: Long, complex; may be sacculated
OMNIVORE: Simple, short and smooth
HUMAN: Long, sacculated

*Liver*
CARNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HERBIVORE: Cannot detoxify vitamin A
OMNIVORE: Can detoxify vitamin A
HUMAN: Cannot detoxify vitamin A

*Kidney*
CARNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HERBIVORE: Moderately concentrated urine
OMNIVORE: Extremely concentrated urine
HUMAN: Moderately concentrated urine

*Nails*
CARNIVORE: Sharp claws
HERBIVORE: Flattened nails or blunt hooves
OMNIVORE: Sharp claws
HUMAN: Flattened nails

Disingenuous examples == poor argument

Humans do not have a rumen and cannot survive long on raw vegetation since, unlike almost all herbivores, humans have no ability to break down cellulosic cell walls. Anyone asserting that humans can be live long on a frugivore diet without enormous technological assistance is either lying or deluded. To assert that vegetarianism was even a possible paleolithic diet is such an incredibly astonishing assertion that I eagerly await the first scrap of evidence to support it.

As for these simplistic categories which do not account for the huge variation of animals in each category and for the tendency of animals to resist strict categorization, well... Most primates are omnivores, and specifically qualify as mixed insectivore/frugivore. Eating insects does not require the same jaw or gut as eating raw mammalian flesh, and the differences are particularly interesting for human evolution since it was not homo sapiens that invented fire and cooking. Advanced tool use and cooking changes the physiological adaptations needed to consume and extract nutrition from both plants and mammalian flesh.

The argument has been successfully argued elsewhere and conclusively so: humans are omnivores, but healthiest when we're consuming mostly fat and some protein from animal sources. Yes, it's more expensive than being a vegetarian, and yes there are ethical concerns that make it even more expensive to be an almost-carnivore with a clear conscience, but the best outcomes usually take the greatest effort.

Mr. Slaten, you are deeply

Mr. Slaten, you are deeply misinformed about your ideas about meat and health. You ought to study and think before you write. Meat and other animals protein in your diet produce hypercalciuria, hypocitraturia, acidic urine and many other derangements and there are many serious publications to prove that. Please, study and think before speaking.

"proof" is code for "nonsense argument"

In science and observation, we don't seek and can't obtain "proof". To claim to have proof or to be seeking proof, or worst of all, to demand proof is to abandon scientific inquiry. What we're looking for is evidence, and sadly, your comment does not provide any.

Hypercalciuria might be caused by consuming more than 60% of calories from protein over a sustained period of time, but the paleolithic (and more recently the Inuit) diet only rarely exceeded 30% of calories from protein and was more commonly 15-25% with most of the balance provided by fat. Fatty cuts were preferred and lean meat was often given to the dogs and often not eaten by people, even the poorest in the group. Similarly, hunting in the spring was almost unheard of as eating the fat-deficient meat of animals only just beginning to replace energy stores lost in winter led to predictable bowel and mental problems (Stefansson V. The friendly arctic. The MacMillan Co, NY. 1921.).

Hypocitraturia is a theoretical consequence of eating just animal products (which are characteristically low in vitamin C) but has never been observed in situ, even in populations that only rarely consume any form of vegetation. Taking a multivitamin with even a token quantity of VitC would seem to completely minimize any risk.

As for the "many other derangements", please join us in science and knowledge of the 21st century.

My own family's experience with a nearly carnivorous diet for the past 36 months has led us to believe that this is a perfectly acceptable long-term diet and lifestyle. No gallstones, no kidney stones, a moderation of our natural body shape and overall better energy, specifically without the extreme highs and lows that used to characterize our daily energy levels. Mostly just a constant sense of relaxed health, motivation and well-being. Our doctor, though confused, agrees that my wife's and my measured HDL, LDL and triglycerides are excellent, in fact much better than any other patients he treats. I keep telling him it's because we consume about 35% of calories from saturated fat and 70% of calories from fat, but he still finds it confusing.

nutritional arguments

The following quotes, facts, figures, and statistics are excerpted from Please Don't Eat the Animals (2007) by Jennifer Horsman and Jaime Flowers:

"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."

---Albert Einstein

"Each year, the meat industrial complex abuses and butchers nearly 9 billion cows, pigs, sheep, turkeys, chickens, and other innocent, feeling animals just for the enjoyment of consumers. Each year, nearly 1.5 million of these consumers are crippled and killed prematurely by heart failure, cancer, stroke, and other chronic diseases that have been linked conclusively with the consumption of these animals. Each year, millions of other animals are abused and sacrificed in a vain search for a 'magic pill' that would vanquish these largely self-inflicted diseases."

---Alex Hershaft, PhD, president, Farm Animal Reform Movement

When analyzing 8,300 deaths in the United States, United Kingdom, and Germany among 76,000 men and women in five different, large studies, researchers concluded that vegetarians have a 24 percent reduction in death from heart disease.

Similarly, in the famous Oxford Vegetarian Study, where 6,000 vegetarians were compared with 5,000 meat-eaters over nearly two decades, scientists found that the rate of death from heart disease was 28 percent lower in vegetarians than in meat-eaters.

One study analyzed eighty scientific studies in leading medical journals. The analysis found that vegetarians had lower blood pressure, and were less likely to suffer from stroke, heart attack, and kidney failure.

A large German study of nearly 2,000 vegetarians found that deaths from heart disease were reduced by over one-third, and that heart disease itself was far less than that of the general population.

Another large study examined the coronary artery disease risk of young adults ages 18 to 30 and vegetarians were found to have much higher levels of cardiovascular fitness and a greatly reduced risk of heart disease.

"The process of gradual blocking of the coronary arteries begins not in adulthood but in childhood...and the main cause of this arteriosclerosis is the steadily increasing amount of fat in the American diet, particularly saturated animal fats such as those found in meat, chicken, milk and cheeses. If there was another disease that caused half a million deaths a year, you can be sure that the public would be acutely aware of the danger, and that the cure or prevention would be universally practiced."

---Dr. Benjamin Spock, author, child expert

"I don't understand why asking people to eat a well-balanced vegetarian diet is considered drastic, while it is medically conservative to cut people open and put them on powerful cholesterol-lowering drugs for the rest of their lives."

---Dr. Dean Ornish, author, Reversing Heart Disease

Stroke is the third leading cause of death behind heart disease and cancer. Vegetarians have a 20 to 30 percent reduced risk of having a stroke. Stroke, like heart disease, is associated with diets high in saturated fats, and the vegetarian diet is naturally low in these fats.

The Oxford Vegetarian Study found cancer mortality to be 39 percent lower among vegetarians when compared with meat-eaters. The European Prospective Investigation of Cancer found vegetarians suffer 40 percent fewer cancers than the general population.

Studies have shown that decreasing a woman's animal fat intake can reduce the chances that she will die from breast cancer. A large-scale, long-term study in the Netherlands found a powerful connection between the amount of animal fat consumed and the rate of prostate cancer. A review of a dozen studies found dietary fat strongly correlated with prostate cancer.

Ovarian, uterine, and endometrial cancers have all been shown to be strongly correlated to the amount of animal fat in one's diet, and vegetarian women have significantly lower rates of these cancers.

"The beef industry has contributed to more American deaths than all the wars of this century, all the natural disasters, and all automobile accidents combined."

---Dr. Neal Barnard, Executive Director, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine

"Vegetarians have the best diet. They have the lowest rate of coronary disease of any group in the country. They have a fraction of our heart attack rate and they have only 40 percent of our cancer rate."

---William Castelli, MD, Director, Framingham Heart Study

"Human beings are not natural carnivores. When we kill animals to eat them, they end up killing us because their flesh, which contains cholesterol and saturated fat, was never intended for human beings, who are natural herbivores."

---Dr. William Roberts, editor-in-chief, American Journal of Cardiology

Vitamin B-12

Humans are not strictly herbivorous. The human body can't break down cellulose, the principle component of plant foods (though it does serve a purpose as dietary fiber). This is the reason we can't graze or live on grass. Anatomically, we resemble the other primates (frugivores), whose diet is mostly vegetarian. We're meant to live mostly, if not entirely, upon plant foods. Only vitamin B-12 cannot be obtained from plant foods.

Predators are found in nature, but so are cannibalism and rape. Killing other animals for food, in this sense, really is an ethical issue, not a "dietary" issue.

Keith Akers writes in A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983): "There is no question that lacto-ovo-vegetarians easily obtain enough vitamin B-12; dairy products and eggs are generous suppliers of vitamin B-12. The controversy pertains only to those who live on plant foods and do not eat any animal foods at all--the 'total vegetarians' or 'vegans.'...The evidence shows, however, that there are numerous sources of vitamin B-12 other than animal foods, and that vitamin B-12 is not a particularly difficult vitamin to get. In short, the Great Vitamin B-12 Controversy, like the protein controversy, is largely generated by lack of information concerning already available research data.

"Only incredibly small quantities of vitamin B-12 are thought to be needed in the diet. According to the National Research Council, 3 micrograms daily will meet the body's requirements. but Victor Herbert, a noted authority on the subject, puts the requirement at 0.1 micrograms, making even the National Research Council's microscopic figure 30 times in excess of the actual need."

John Robbins, author of Diet for a New America (1987), says that vitamin B-12 is found naturally around us: on the dirt on a carrot pulled out of the ground, in rainwater, etc., but we live in a sanitized society, removed from nature.

Keith Akers similarly observes:

"Vitamin B-12 has been found in rainwater and in many plant foods. In small quantities, Vitamin B-12 has been found either in or on various foods such as the roots and stems of tomatoes, cabbage, celery, kale, broccoli, leeks, and the leaves of kohlrabi. An ounce of the roots of leeks, beets, and other vegetables will provide 0.1 to 0.3 micrograms of B-12, which is more than a day's requirement.

"There are other plant foods which provide 'massive' quantities of vitamin B-12--'massive,' that is, in relation to human requirements for the vitamin. These include nutritional yeast, tempeh, seaweed, algae, kelp, and fermented soy sauces. The human liver can store vitamin B-12 for years, so once it is ingested from one of these sources, one can go for long periods of time without having to worry about a source of B-12."

In his 1979 book, Vegetarianism: A Way of Life, Dudley Giehl writes that some ancient Egyptian priests were vegetarian to help them with their vows of celibacy and that they avoided eggs and milk, which they called "liquid flesh." Giehl writes that Leonardo da Vinci was a vegan, out of ethical concern for animals.

In his 1923 book, The Natural Diet of Man, Adventist physician Dr. John Harvey Kellogg writes: "The Ladrone Islands were discovered by the Spaniards around 1620. There were no animals on the islands except birds, which the natives did not eat. The natives had never seen fire, and they lived entirely on plant foods--fruits and roots in their natural state. They were found to be vigorous, active, and of good longevity."

The Garden of Eden was vegan, but veganism as an actual historical trend is a fairly recent phenomenon. The Vegan Society was formed in England in 1944.

The ethical, environmental, and nutritional arguments are compelling enough to encourage millions of Americans to reduce, if not eliminate entirely, their consumption of animal products.

A few mistakes

This article also contains "half-truths."

I don't have time to read all the above comments, and I doubt the author will either... Regardless, I wanted to point out what to me seem to be some obvious reasoning errors:

1. The rice-chicken comparison is hugely misleading. I'll assume that Slaten is correct to say that the chicken industry is responsible for 1% of global greenhouse gasses (GHG) and the rice industry is responsible for 1.5%. This comparison, however, is irrelevant because the rice industry produces FAR FAR FAR more food per amount of greenhouse gas emitted. I couldn't find numbers for worldwide production (a shame since Asia eats the most rice and comparatively little meat), but the United States produces 8.6 trillion pounds of rice annually compared to only 36 billion pounds of chicken. This number doesn't even encompass the entire degree to which non-meat agriculture is better for GHG emissions since non-meat (feedstock agriculture) is an input for the production of meat.

2. Modern meat agriculture is unsustainable regardless. The animals are packed into what are essentially unsanitary factories. The festering conditions are an open invitation to all manner disease such that antibiotics have to be mixed directly into the food. 70% of all antibiotics in the U.S. are consumed by livestock (not by humans!) for this reason. The result is super-bacteria rapidly evolving resistances to our best antibiotics and causing inexcusable loss of human life. If American's wanted to consume the same quantity of meat it does now without wasting antibiotics, the land requirements and GHG emissions would be enormously greater.

Last and least:

3. Slaten is incorrect to state that Omega-3 fatty acids can only be found in fish oil. Two of the three major types of Omega-3s can be found in nuts such as flaxseed. The third, docosahexaenoic (DHA), cannot be synthesized naturally by the human body, but the body can convert the other two types of Omega-3 fatty acids into DHA. Thus consuming fish is not an essential requirement to getting the benefits of all Omega-3s. Regardless, fish is a healthy and excellent addition to any diet.

fish can't feed the world

According to a national Vegetarian Resource Group Poll conducted by Harris Interactive, nearly 15 percent of Americans say they never eat fish or seafood.

The pacific sardine lives along the coasts of North America from Alaska to southern California. Sardines, once a major part of the California fishing industry, are now considered to be "commercially extinct." Another species classified as "commercially extinct" is the New England haddock. Ecologists have also been concerned about the significant reduction in finfish, the Atlantic bluefin tuna, Lake Erie cisco, and blackfins that inhabit Lakes Huron and Michigan.

Over 200,000 porpoises are killed every year by fishermen seeking tuna in the Pacific. Sea turtles are similarly killed in Caribbean shrimp operations.

Half of all fresh water worldwide is used for thirsty livestock. Producing eight ounces of beef requires an unimaginable 25,000 liters of water, or the water necessary for one pound of steak equals the water consumption of the average household for a year.

Factory farm pollution is the primary source of damage to coastal waters in North and South America, Europe, and Asia. Scientists report that over sixty percent of the coastal waters in the United States are moderately to severely degraded from factory farm nutrient pollution. This pollution creates oxygen-depleted dead zones, which are huge areas of ocean devoid of aquatic life.

The World Conservation Union lists over 1,000 different fish species that are threatened or endangered. According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) estimate, over 60 percent of the world's fish species are either fully exploited or depleted. Commercial fish populations of cod, hake, haddock, and flounder have fallen by as much as 95 percent in the north Atlantic.

It makes sense to eat lower on the food chain. Some animals are killed because, as carnivores, they compete with the human predator for the right to kill other animals for food, including wild game and domesticated species raised by livestock ranchers. Alaskan hunters are eager to reduce the wolf population in their state because this animal is a predator of moose.

The United States government spends $10 million each year to kill an estimated 100,000 wild animals, including coyotes, foxes, bobcats, badgers, bears, and mountain lions just to placate ranchers who don't want these animals killing their livestock. The cost far outweighs the damage to livestock that these predators cause.

Nor can fish provide any help in alleviating global hunger. There are signs that the fishing industry (which is quite energy-intensive) has already overfished the oceans in several areas. And fish could never play a major role in the worlds diet anyway: the entire global fish catch of the world, if divided among all the world's inhabitants would amount to only a few ounces of fish per person per week.

The American Dietetic Association reports that throughout history, the human race has lived on "vegetarian or near vegetarian diets," and meat has traditionally been a luxury. Studies show the healthiest human populations on the globe live almost entirely on plant foods--useful data, given our skyrocketing healthcare costs. Nathan Pritikin, author of The Pritikin Plan, recommended not more than three ounces of animal protein per day; three ounces per week for his patients who had already suffered a heart attack.

In A Vegetarian Sourcebook (1983), author Keith Akers observes:

"Much has been made over the virtues of chicken and fish in comparison to red meats such as beef and pork. It has been said that eating chicken and fish will aid in the prevention of heart disease, because these meats are relatively lower in fat and contain more unsaturated than saturated fat, thus helping to lower cholesterol levels. Unfortunately, these claims are not supported by the evidence. Studies in which human volunteers switched from diets including beef and eggs, to one including fish and chicken showed that serum cholesterol levels were not appreciably lowered by switching to chicken and fish.

"And an examination of the nutritional data suggests an explanation: while it is true that chicken and fish contain less fat than beef, it is also true that chicken and fish contain about twice as much cholesterol per calorie as does beef. Indeed, some seafoods (such as crab, shrimp, and lobster) are exceptionally high in cholesterol content.

"All of these diverse theories have roughly the same dietary implications. Meat is high in cholesterol, saturated fat, and total fat. Plant foods, by contrast, are usually low in saturated fat and total fat, and contain zero cholesterol. Vegetarians have lower levels of serum cholesterol than do meat-eaters, with total vegetarians (vegans) having the lowest levels of all."

Obviously the idea of providing the entire world with a Western diet is quite absurd. But what about satisfying today's demand for meat--which provides only a fraction of the world's population with a Western-style diet? If the world population triples in the next 100 years, and meat consumption continues, then meat production would have to triple as well. Instead of 3.7 billion acres of cropland and 7.5 billion acres of grazing land, we would require 11.1 billion acres of cropland and 22.5 billion acres of grazing land.

But this is slightly larger than the total land area of the six inhabited continents! We are desperately short of forests, water and energy already. Even if we resort to extreme methods of population control: abortion, infanticide, genocide, etc...modest increases in the world population during the next generation would make it impossible to maintain current levels of meat consumption. On a vegetarian diet, however, the world could easily support a population several times its present size. The world's cattle alone consume enough to feed over 8.7 billion humans.

Lester Brown of the Overseas Development Council calculates that if Americans reduced their meat consumption by only 10 percent per year, it would free at least 12 million tons of grain for human consumption--or enough to feed 60 million people.

PETA

Talking about People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the movement is said to be currently annoyed at President Obama. PETA, or People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, is currently decrying the video depicted in headlines as "Obama swats fly" as they would rather he grab some instant cash from the Treasury and buy a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher. The group, which has some admirable and noble aims, has been accused of everything from political grandstanding to encouraging domestic terrorism. (PETA contributed funds to the legal defense of known eco-terrorist, Rob Coronado.) They decry the act as being cruel. Obama was being distracted by the pestilent insect, and punished it for its insolence. It isn't as if there's an insect vet for PETA to get online loans to take it to.

PETA-friendly theology

According to the Bible, God intended the entire human race to follow a vegetarian diet (Genesis 1:29). Paradise is vegetarian. Rashi (Rabbi Solomon von Isaac, 1030-1105), the famous Jewish Bible commentator, taught that "God did not permit Adam and his wife to kill a creature and to eat its flesh. Only every green herb shall they all eat together." Ibn Ezra and other Jewish biblical commentators agree.

According to the Talmud, "Adam and many generations that followed him were strict flesh-abstainers; flesh-foods were rejected as repulsive for human consumption." Although man was made in God's image and given dominion over all creation (Genesis 1:26-28), these verses do not justify humans killing animals and devouring them, because God immediately proclaims He created the plants for human consumption. (Genesis 1:29)

In a letter to Pope John Paul II, challenging him on the issue of animal experimentation, Dr. Michael Fox of the Humane Society argued that the word "dominion" is derived from the original Hebrew word "rahe" which refers to compassionate stewardship, instead of power and control. Parents have dominion over their children; they do not have a license to kill, torment or abuse them. The Talmud (Shabbat 119; Sanhedrin 7) interprets "dominion" to mean animals may be used for labor.

Man was made in God's image (Genesis 1:26) and told to be vegetarian (Genesis 1:29). "And God saw all that He had made and saw that it was very good." (Genesis 1:31) Complete and perfect harmony. Everything in the beginning was the way God wanted it. Vegetarianism was part of God's initial plan for the world.

"It appears that the first intention of the Maker was to have men live on a strictly vegetarian diet," writes Rabbi Simon Glazer, in his 1971 Guide to Judaism. "The very earliest periods of Jewish history are marked with humanitarian conduct towards the lower animal kingdom...It is clearly established that the ancient Hebrews knew, and perhaps were the first among men to know, that animals feel and suffer pain."

After the Flood, God revised His commandment against flesh-eating. Human beings, since eating of the forbidden fruit, seemed incapable of obedience on this issue. One Jewish writer comments, "Only after man had proven unfit for the high moral standard given at the beginning, was meat made a part of the humans' diet."

A Jewish legend says Moses was found to be righteous by God through his shepherding. While Moses was tending his sheep of Jethro in the Midian wilderness, a young kid ran away from the flock. Moses ran after it until he found the kid drinking by a pool of water. Moses approached the kid and said, "I did not know that you ran away because you were thirsty; now, you must be tired." So Moses placed the animal on his shoulders and carried him back to the flock. God said, "Because thou has shown mercy in leading the flock, thou will surely tend My flock, Israel."

In his essay, "The Dietary Prohibitions of the Hebrews," Jean Soler finds in the Bible at least two times when an attempt was made to try the Israelites out on a vegetarian diet. During the period of exodus from Egypt, the Hebrews lived entirely on manna. They had large flocks which they brought with them, but never touched.

The Israelites were told that manna "is the bread which the Lord has given you to eat." (Exodus 16:5) For forty years in the desert, the Israelites lived on manna (Nehemiah 9:15,21). The apocryphal Wisdom of Solomon (16:20) calls manna the food of the angels. Manna is described as a vegetable food, like "coriander seed" (Numbers 11:7), tasting like wafers and honey (Exodus 16:31).

On two separate occasions, however, the men rebelled against Moses because they wanted meat. The meat-hungry Hebrews lamented, "Would that we had died by the hand of the Lord in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots." God ended this first "experiment in vegetarianism" through the miracle of the quails.

A second "experiment in vegetarianism" is suggested in the Book of Numbers, when the Hebrews lament once again, "O that we had meat to eat." (Numbers 11:4) God repeated the miracle of the quails, but this time with a vengeance: "And while the flesh was between their teeth, before it was even chewed, the wrath of the Lord was kindled against the people, and He struck them down with a great plague." (Numbers 11:33)

The site where the deaths took place was named "The Graves of Lust." (Numbers 11:34; Deuteronomy 12:20) The quail meat was called "basar ta’avah," or "meat of lust." The Talmud (Chulin 84a) comments that: "The Torah teaches a lesson in moral conduct, that man shall not eat meat unless he has a special craving for it, and shall eat it only occasionally and sparingly." Here, according to Soler, as in the story of the Flood, "meat is given a negative connotation. It is a concession God makes to man’s imperfection."

In their book, The Nine Questions People Ask About Judaism, Dennis Prager and Rabbi Telushkin explain: "Keeping kosher is Judaism's compromise with its ideal vegetarianism. Ideally, according to Judaism, man would confine his eating to fruits and vegetables and not kill animals for food."

In his excellent A Guide to the Misled, Rabbi Shmuel Golding explains the orthodox Jewish position concerning animal sacrifices: "When G-d gave our ancestors permission to make sacrifices to Him, it was a concession, just as when He allowed us to have a king (I Samuel 8), but He gave us a whole set of rules and regulations concerning sacrifice that, when followed, would be superior to and distinct from the sacrificial system of the heathens."

Some biblical passages denounce animal sacrifice (Isaiah 1:11,15; Amos 5:21-25). Other passages state that animal sacrifices, not necessarily incurring God's wrath, are unnecessary (I Kings 15:22; Jeremiah 7:21-22; Hosea 6:6; Hosea 8:13; Micah 6:6-8; Psalm 50:1-14; Psalm 40:6; Proverbs 21:3; Ecclesiastes 5:1).

Sometimes Christians cite Isaiah 1:11, where God says, "I am full of the burnt offerings..." They say the word "full" implies God accepted the sacrifices. However, in Isaiah 43:23-24, God says: "You have not honored Me with your sacrifices...rather you have burdened Me with your sins, you have wearied Me with your iniquities." This suggests, as Moses Maimonides taught and Rabbi Shmuel Golding confirms above, that "the sacrifices were a concession to barbarism."

Jesus taught his disciples to pray for the coming of God's kingdom (Matthew 6:9-10), the kingdom of peace, in which the entire world is restored to a vegetarian paradise (Genesis 1:29; Isaiah 11:6-9). Recalling Psalm 37:11, he blessed the meek, saying they would inherit the earth. (Matthew 5:5) The kingdom of God belongs to the gentle and kind (Matthew 5:7-9) Christians are to "Be merciful, just as your Father is also merciful." (Luke 6:36) Those who take up the sword must perish by the sword. (Matthew 26:52)

Jesus repeatedly spoke of God's tender care for the nonhuman creation (Matthew 6:26-30, 10:29-31; Luke 12:6-7, 24-28). Jesus taught that God desires "mercy and not sacrifice." (Matthew 9:10-13, 12:6-7; Mark 2:15-17; Luke 5:29-32) The epistle to the Hebrews 10:5-10 suggests that Jesus did not come to abolish the Law and the prophets (which Paul, and not Jesus, regarded as "so much garbage"), but only the institution of animal sacrifice, as does Jesus' cleansing the Temple of those who were buying and selling animals for sacrifice and his overturning the tables of the moneychangers in the Temple. (Matthew 21:12-14; Mark 11:15-17; Luke 19:45-46; John 2:14-17)

Jesus not only repeatedly upheld Mosaic Law (Matthew 5:17-19; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 16:17), he justified his healing on the Sabbath by referring to commandments calling for the humane treatment of animals.

When teaching in one of the synagogues on the Sabbath, Jesus healed a woman who had been ill for eighteen years. He justified his healing work on the Sabbath by referring to biblical passages calling for the humane treatment of animals as well as their rest on the Sabbath. "So ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham...be loosed from this bond on the Sabbath?" Jesus asked. (Luke 13:10-16)

On another occasion, Jesus again referred to Torah teaching on "tsa'ar ba'alei chayim" or compassion for animals to justify healing on the Sabbath. "Which of you, having a donkey or an ox that has fallen into a pit, will not immediately pull him out on the Sabbath day?" (Luke 14:1-5)

Jesus compared saving sinners who had gone astray from God's kingdom to rescuing lost sheep. He recalled a Jewish legend about Moses' compassion as a shepherd for his flock.

"For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. What do you think? Who among you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it?

"And when he has found it," Jesus continued, "he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors saying to them, 'Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!'

"I say to you, likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance...there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents." (Matthew 18:11-13; Luke 15:3-7,10)

Jesus insisted upon the moral standards given by God in the beginning (Matthew 5:31-32, 19:3-9; Mark 10:2-12; Luke 16:18), and this did not go unnoticed by early church fathers such as St. Jerome.

From history, too, we learn that the earliest Christians were vegetarians as well as pacifists. For example, Clemens Prudentius, the first Christian hymn writer, in one of his hymns exhorts his fellow Christians not to pollute their hands and hearts by the slaughter of innocent cows and sheep, and points to the variety of nourishing and pleasant foods obtainable without blood-shedding.

Some of the most distinguished figures in the history of Christianity have been vegetarian. A partial list includes: St. James, St. Matthew, Clemens Prudentius, Origen, Tertullian, Clement of Alexandria, St. Basil, St. Jerome, St. John Chrysostom, St. Benedict, Aegidius, Boniface, St. Richard of Wyche, St. Columba, St. Filipo Neri, John Wray, Thomas Tryon, John Wesley, Joshua Evans, William Metcalfe, General William Booth, Ellen White, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg, and Reverend V.A. Holmes-Gore.

Reverend Marc Wessels of the International Network for Religion and Animals (INRA) writes:

"The most important teaching which Jesus shared was the need for people to love God with their whole self and to love their neighbor as they loved themselves. Jesus expanded the concept of neighbor to include those who were normally excluded, and it is therefore not too farfetched for us to consider the animals as our neighbors.

"To think about animals as our brothers and sisters is not a new or radical idea. By extending the idea of neighbor, the love of neighbor includes love of, compassion for, and advocacy of animals. There are many historical examples of Christians who thought along those lines, besides the familiar illustration of St. Francis. An abbreviated listing of some of those individuals worthy of study and emulation includes Saint Blaise, Saint Comgall, Saint Cuthbert, Saint Gerasimus, Saint Giles, and Saint Jerome, to name but a few."

According to contemporary Benedictine monk, Brother David Steindl-Rast:

"...the survival of our planet depends on our sense of belonging---to all other humans, to dolphins caught in dragnets, to pigs and chickens and calves raised in animal concentration camps, to redwoods and rainforests, to kelp beds in our oceans, and to the ozone layer."

In a sermon preached in York Minster, September 28, 1986, John Austin Baker, the Bishop of Salisbury, England, attacked the overcrowded confinement methods of raising and killing animals for food ("factory farming"), choosing as his example, the treatment of chickens:

"Is there any credit balance for the battery hen, denied almost all natural functioning, all normal environment, lapsing steadily into deformity and disease, for the whole of her existence?" he asked. "It is in the battery shed and the broiler house, not in the wild, that we find the true parallel to Auschwitz. Auschwitz is a purely human invention."

Rick Dunkerly of Christ Lutheran Church says:

"The Bible-believing Christian, should, of all people, be on the frontline in the struggle for animal welfare and rights. We who are Christians should be treating the animal creation now as it will be treated then, at Christ's second coming. It will not now be perfect, but it must be substantial, otherwise we have missed our calling, and we grieve the One we call 'Lord,' who was born in a stable surrounded by animals simply because He chose it that way."

Rose Evans, editor and publisher of Harmony: Voices for a Just Future, a "consistent-ethic" periodical on the religious Left, says there are more Christian vegetarians than Jewish vegetarians. Yet some people still react to the idea of Christian vegetarianism as though it were an oxymoron.

"Every year," says Reverend Andrew Linzey, author of Christianity and the Rights of Animals, "I receive hundreds of anguished letters from Christians who are so distressed by the insensitivity to animals shown by mainstream churches that they have left them or are on the verge of doing so...The time is long overdue to take the issue of animal rights to the churches...

"I derive hope from the Gospel preaching that the same God who draws us to such affinity and intimacy with suffering creatures declared that reality on a Cross in Calvary. Unless all Christian preaching has been utterly mistaken, the God who becomes incarnate and crucified is the one who has taken the side of the oppressed and the suffering of the world--however the churches may actually behave."

refuting "not even close"

"Although I may disagree with some of its underlying principles," writes pro-life activist Karen Swallow Prior, "there is much for me, an anti-abortion activist, to respect in the animal rights movement.

"Animal rights activists, like me, have risked personal safety and reputation for the sake of other living beings. Animal rights activists, like me, are viewed by many in the mainstream as fanatical wackos, ironically exhorted by irritated passerby to 'Get a Life!'

"Animal rights activists, like me, place a higher value on life than on personal comfort and convenience, and in balancing the sometimes competing interests of rights and responsibilities, choose to err on the side of compassion and nonviolence."

During 1986 - 1988, when I had access to USENET, a nationwide computer network linking corporations, military bases, think tanks, universities, etc., I paid close attention to the abortion debate. The subject of animal rights always came up, albeit indirectly.

The mentality of the pro-choicers was that the fetus wasn't human, but rather some kind of lower life form--and that lower life forms couldn't possibly have rights.

When a pro-lifer discussed the potential humanity of the unborn, a pro-choicer replied, "MY CAT has more potential than that!"

One pro-choicer said sarcastically, "Maybe the kid (the fetus) should be raised as a vegetarian. After all, don't cows have the right to life?"

Another pro-choicer, Oleg Kiselev, upon hearing the pro-life argument that brain waves can be detected in the unborn as early as six weeks, pointed out that animals also have brain waves. He then added, "Excuse me, while I eat my veal stew."

In the spring of 1988, Stephen Carrier, a grad student in Mathematics at UC Berkeley, pointed out that chimpanzees share 99 percent of their DNA with humans, and so, to argue that species membership alone makes life worth protecting "is to fetishize DNA."

A pro-lifer responded: "If it'll please you, I will agree to protect anything that is 99 percent human."

To this, Stephen responded: "Okay. How about 50 percent? That would probably bring quite a few species into the net."

Stephen Carrier admitted, "I don't know what makes it acceptable to kill animals for meat. Some people think it's wrong, and I have no logical answer for them. But it's not murder, and I believe abortions are analogous. Yes, it's killing--but it's not murder."

Stephen admitted his argument was "not a mathematical proof, but there is no mathematical proof that will resolve the abortion debate."

In the fall of 1986, pro-life student John Morrow of Rutgers University compared abortion to slavery: Roe v. Wade denied rights to an entire class of humans merely on account of their age and developmental status, just as the Dred Scott decision of 1857 denied rights to an entire class of humans based on the color of their skin.

Dave Butler of Tektronix in Oregon responded: "Abortion and slavery? Not even close. A fetus isn't human. If you believe it's wrong to eat meat, should your morality be imposed upon everyone else?"

"Not even close" has become a popular slogan with pro-choicers. It even appeared on the headlines of most San Francisco Bay Area newspapers in November 1992, when Bill Clinton was elected.

"Not even close" is not a new slogan. Peter Singer writes in Animal Liberation that when Mary Wollstonecraft, a forerunner of today’s feminists, published A Vindication of the Rights of Women in 1792, "her views were widely regarded as absurd."

Thomas Taylor, a distinguished Cambridge philosopher, tried to refute Mary Wollstonecraft by demonstrating that if women could be given liberation, then animals could be given liberation, too. And since this is "absurd" it must be equally "absurd" to give women liberation. Taylor called his parody, "A Vindication of the Rights of Brutes."

"Not even close" is the "A Vindication of the Rights of Brutes" of the late 20th and early 21st century, because it takes for granted the invincible prejudice that other animals couldn't possibly have rights. It is this prejudice which we in the animal rights movement are struggling to overcome.

Again, the mentality of the pro-choicers was that the fetus wasn't human, but some kind of lower life form--and that lower life forms couldn't possibly have rights. This led me to conclude that if there's any group out there which ought to be sympathetic to animal rights, it's pro-lifers.

The amount of acreage it

The amount of acreage it takes to feed livestock is unstainable. As the human population continues to grow, cows, pigs and other heavy livestock will be taking up too much of the burden.

The world is going to go veggie because our fields aren't getting any bigger.
- Eric C www.onviolence.com

The amount of acreage it

The amount of acreage it takes to feed livestock is unstainable. As the human population continues to grow, cows, pigs and other heavy livestock will be taking up too much of the burden.

The world is going to go veggie because our fields aren't getting any bigger.
- Eric C www.onviolence.com